Talking Horses Thursday August 19th 2021

Big hitters on the Hitlist yesterday with Bacciodilupo barbecuing the bookies with Flaming Rib, his EW nap who scorched home at 16/1 – brilliant tipping, Bacci, you’re on fire!

Next up is Luke from Reinitinracing with a Jamie Spencer special on Arcadian Sunrise at 11/4. Good to see you back, Luke.

David was in form too with a jumper, Mulberry Hill, his nap, winning at 11/8. Nice work, David.

Rob J’s nap let him down, but he still had a great day with his other tips – Copper Night at 18/1 and Flaming Rib, as well as three placed at good prices. A matter of time before you hit the jackpot, Rob. Good work.

Luke H too came close; his EW nap advised at 9/1 Alenquer finishing 2nd in the big one, and Live In The Moment’s 2nd place getting him the place double. Knocking on the door, Luke.

And Robicheaux recommended the consistent Rajinsky at 14/1 EW to land the place profit. Well done.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the August Winners thread.

So panic-stricken was my Wednesday nap Here And Now at the prospect of carrying my money, he scrambled out the front of his stall and headed for the horizon. Today’s nap is Cliffs Of Capri in the 3.00, who, at 25/1 is twice the price I thought he’d be.

Back with Skybet’s extra place races I’ve also taken Cliffs of Capri with La Trinidad and Fame And Acclaim permed with 3 in the 5.20: Agincourt: Arabian Romance, and Separate – for EW doubles with win singles on Separate and Cliffs Of Capri.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at the Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners thread for each month.

We also have a Lounge thread for general chat, though as a forum we are a bit limited to what WordPress, our host here, provides as far as structure goes.

Thanks for looking in. Good luck with your bets today, but please bear in mind that this is meant to be ‘fun’. There are many wise heads posting tips here and we haven’t yet gone a day without somebody tipping a winner. But never bet more than you can afford to lose. Small stakes can still produce wide smiles.

All the best


  1. The dosh was BOSHed. DNB was hung out to dry on the Knavesmire. Neither trainer or punter could offer an explanation. We go again.


  2. With my inability to picks winners at the moment, the selection of ABSTINENCE in the 16:45 at York as my nap seems most appropriate,


    1. The fear of my tip ABSTINENCE has caused the bookies to dramatically slash her odds. For those of you who have the ability to lay a horse I suggest putting your life savings on her not to win.


  3. Ever Given 2,25 at York is nap. Darts on an underwhelming card (to me at least) are Sandrine, La Trinidad, Snowfall, Maglev, Pennymoor and Spirit of Bermuda


  4. I’ll use my profits from yesterday to try and take advantage of the extra places at York. Here goes:

    14:25 (6 places) system and ever given

    15:00 (7 places) maydanny, orbaan, Escobar (NB)

    16:10 (6 places) alfailia (nap) and Harrow

    16:45 (4 places) Dubai mountain, portfolio, pennymoor

    17:20 (5 places) star of emaraaty and spirit of Bermuda

    e/w individual, very small each way accumulator, treble.


  5. I guess Mishriff didn’t tear it up in the International yesterday, shucks. Today’s nap: Wings of War 9/2. About time Clive Cox scored a biggie this season, will like the fast ground, expert Derby-winning pilot on board, what can go wrong? Looking forward to Snowfall crushing the opposition again in the Oaks -I can see why tipsters are tempted to put up other horses looking at the prices but when ground conditions and track don’t even suit the opposition then it’s baffling. The Galtres is more intriguing and JD’s tip(ple) Abstinence has a great, er, shot but it’s hard to bar any of the 12 runners from calculations.


  6. I never thought I’d see the words “Jamie Spencer special” being uttered in this forum. I seem our erstwhile friend Michael was jubilant in his, as usual, barbed comment in the Grauniad.
    Not much interest today (won’t see any since going out for a long liquid lunch) but I’ll stick with Simon Rowland with Irish Admiral in the 3.00


  7. Already mentioned above, but La Trinidad in the 3.00 was the only horse I thought worth a bet on ITV races today, EW @15/2. so that’s my Nap. I’ll watch the Yorkshire Oaks with interest, but neither that or the 2 year old races are betting propositions for me.


    1. Don’t feel that O Murphy gave La Trinidad the best ride; manoeuvering sideways to get the horse out, when there seemed to be a gap or two ahead that opened up that he could be taking… Not saying he’d have won, might have got into 6th for my EW though! Just managed to get a small bet @100/30 on Snowfall for the Arc, before the price went.


  8. RM back to his Ballydoyle form yesterday on Love.
    When the inside opens up and you are riding a true 12F Horse against a 10F Horse what Jockey does not try to steal a March and kick on immediately?
    No. Wait for events to happen around you and assume nobody will blame you.
    Or was he waiting to leave her famous finishing kick to the very last minute?
    The fact that Mishriff would have won easily anyway is beside the point. He did not know that at the time.

    I am not sure Weatherbys should have allowed these names as I think it glamourises Warlords but I did an e.w. double on the same day that both Escobar and Pablo Escobarr ran last month and now I get to do the treble with Roberto Escobarr.
    The first runs in the 15.00 at York today and the latter 2 in the Ebor on Saturday.

    In the Yorkshire Oaks Snowfall is far from weatherproof.
    This season Ballydoyle should have split their yard in half and moved one half to France and the other half to the States.
    Galileos run themselves hard even though it may look easy. They don’t normally run within themselves and win snugly.
    The trouble is the lack of alternative; Wonderful Tonight has only one target and can only be what Gosden might call “80% fit” whilst place money is down to 2 places and we know that your long priced selection will get beaten a nose in to 3rd.

    Balding’s Horses ran well yesterday without scoring so I expect Sandrine to get him on the board in the 13.50 at York.

    My nap is the ex-Ballydoyle trained Barbados in the 8.15 Killarney dusk.
    What a disappointment he turned out considering he was named after the location where the Magniers winter.


  9. Nap is Air to Air 6.25 Windsor 2-1

    Nicola Currie has some redemption to get after the last day on this one. She got it stuck behind every wall possible. I think it should have won easily. No change in mark.

    York looks especially tough. Swerving the bets there Until tommrow.


  10. From a punting perspective, save the first two races where I believe there is a good double to be had with SANDRINE and WINGS OF WAR (already advised by Jamie and Rakib on this thread), the Knavesmire is a bookies benefit today. So, I’m going with the Young Master and Team Ireland at Windsor tonight – NIGHT OF ROMANCE 5/2 at 5.55 and GAHERIS 3/1 at 7.25. These two are win bets and in a multiple with PRESENTANDCOUNTING, already advised by David.


  11. Can Pierre-Louis Jamin do it again today, pourquoi no? We shall find out…today’s NAP is Mr MCCANN EW in the 4.10 York, 14/1 or so as I scrawl….his only ride today, for Tom Dascombe, same as yesterday’s winner and a similar race.
    Good luck with all your bets.


  12. Snowfall looked very smart there. Been some cracking viewing watching her and Mishriff win their races. If they all make the Arc it could be one for the history books. Can’t wait !


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