Talking Horses Saturday August 21 2021

Great to see David put up winners for the 4th day in succession with Lion Tiger and Alhett, advised at 9/4 and 1/1. You’re on a great run, David. Good luck today.

Bacciodilupo, successful with the big priced Flaming Rib on Thursday tipped 8/1 winner Presenting Bonnie – advised at 18/1 in the morning. Smashing them home at big prices, Bacciodilupo, long may it continue.

Robicheaux seems hardly to have been off the Hitlist lately and his EW selection at 12/1 King Triton landed the place money in the 5.10. Consistent work, Robicheaux.

The Steelman, another recent Hitlist regular tipped the bonny wee Winter Power who scooted home at 9/1 – advised at 6/1, but most bookies going BOG. Confident selection, Steelman, in what many saw as a two horse race.

Rob J who’s been showing signs of a full return to form landed his nap Lusail at 7/2. I’ll be following you now, Rob.

It was a fine first day for new poster Paul Romain, who put up these:

Nap – 1.50 STATE OF BLISS 17/2 EW 6 places at Sky
Next Best – 3.35 WINTER POWER 6/1 EW 5 places at Skybet
Longshot – 5.10 DEVILWALA 40/1 6 places sKYBET
Each Way Lucky 31 Skybet
1.50 STATE OF BLISS 17/1 6 places (was Winter Reprise 16/1 but just taken out as typing!)
3.00 GIS A SUB 12/1 3 places
3.35 EMRAATY ANA 33/1 5 places
4.40 AUNTY BRIDY 22/1 4 places
5.10 DEVILWALA 40/1 6 places

Those middle three were placed at 50/1, 40/1 and 8/1! And Winter Power, of course, won. I suspect Paul took Skybet prices for the extra places, so won’t get BOG. I very much hope I am wrong. Whatever, that’s fantastic tipping to follow up on Paul’s big payout from Thursday’s place pot.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the August Winners thread.

The blog’s nap was no good and we are going to have to work a bit harder. Still, it’s a speculative nap today at 25/1 EW to 8 places with Skybet. He’s trained only about 30 crow miles from where I live and is better than ever this season … ladies and gents, I offer you the wonderful Euchen Glen, a proven Group horse in a handicap. One of his three Group 3 victories was here at York, and in last year’s Ebor he finished 5th at 25/1. He has a stone more this time but his improvement fully merits it. If he finishes in the first third of the field here he lands the place money, and at his best has a fighting chance of winning.

I’ve backed him single and put him in EW multiples at Skybet extra places along with Dhushan and Marshall Plan (2.25), and Qaader(4.45) plus Stylish Performer (8.00). The last one has form figures on all weather of 21122, and Skybet pay an extra place at 5/1.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at the Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners thread for each month.

We also have a Lounge thread for general chat, though as a forum we are a bit limited to what WordPress, our host here, provides as far as structure goes.

Thanks for looking in. Good luck with your bets today, but please bear in mind that this is meant to be ‘fun’. There are many wise heads posting tips here and we haven’t yet gone a day without somebody tipping a winner. But never bet more than you can afford to lose. Small stakes can still produce wide smiles.

All the best


  1. I’m going to take a punt on the forecast rain getting into the ground. So..
    Nap. El Drama. York 1.50. 6/1.
    Nb. Ebor. Max Vega ew. 33/1. Best of luck everyone !


  2. NAP
    3.35 York
    1/5th 8 places Skybet
    (Also playing GLOBAL STORM 11/1 & HUMANITARIAN 12/1 at Sky and keeping fingers crossed for my antepost bet on HAMISH at 25/1 ew 1/4, 4!)

    2.25 York IMPERIAL SUN 9/1 ew
    1/5th 7 places Skybet

    (each-way double with the Nap too)

    2.25 York DIAMOND CUTTER 28/1
    1/5th 7 places Skybet

    EACH WAY LUCKY 15 Skybet
    2.25 York IMPERIAL SUN 9/1 ew
    1/5th 7 places Skybet
    2.40 Sandown VILLE DE GRACE 14/1 (4places)
    3.35 York ROBERTO ESCOBARR 16/1
    4.45 York LUCANDER 10/1


  3. Numerous shorties abound but honour insists (as a Yorkie) that the Ebor be the nap. No idea if it’s good enough but Humanitarian has surely been saved for this by Gosden – you can get 14/1 for 6 places with some firms but if it’s going to win then surely it has to be all in? Having said that, as a coward, I’m going EW. Other York lucky dips are: Real world, Summers Knight, Sir Busker, Attagirl, Aerion Power and Blind Beggar for the excellent Joanna Mason.


  4. The nap and the nb losing their chances midway and at the start respectively yesterday.. here goes nothing….
    NAP: Mt Leinster in the Ebor (hopefully drifts out from current 6s)
    NB: Valley Forge in the Melrose (10/1)
    Both Win only, life’s too short for this e/w palaver 😉


    1. Well done Rakib. That was one very well handicapped horse. Great NB and price !
      Hamish now out of the Ebor. Your double looking good so far !


  5. It is slightly odds on that Hell freezes over before I nap another winner on here but I shall keep trying.Indigo Girl @ 0/3 in the 2.40 at Sandown is todays effort.Very well done to yesterdays winners.


  6. Space blues (York) 15:00 is nap, which I will also double up with reach for the moon (sandown) 14:05.

    Ew at York, I will go for fujaira prince, 12/1 (15:35) for 8 places and wahraan 7/1 (16:45) 5 places.

    All 4 in a small accumulator/ treble.

    Good luck all.


  7. I suspect we are all find of Euchen Glen and I’ll cheer it on today too. The nap is No No Maestro at Newton Abbot 6.20 and an each way interest suggested in RavensCraig Castle who won a few weeks ago but steps up a bit today in the York 2.25. Currently at 18s

    It’s a very busy days racing. Good luck all.


  8. Very important Classic pointing 2 yo Races at the Curragh today
    Last year both Mac Swiney and SMB won here which produced a relatively low Classic yield for this card.
    I think I will back the Heffernan mounts as they don’t seem to be any worse than the RM mounts.
    The exception is in the Futurity at 18.40 where Point Lonsdale to beat The Entertainer in a straight forecast is my nap.


    1. 2,03 del mar my fabourit horse Going Global.
      In same race A jessica harrington has Tetragonal from mrs j harrington ..
      Going global is a MHEMAS..jus saying


  9. The Nap is Rouget’s VADENI 5/4 Deauville, win bet and in a double with a runner there tomorrow. I also like ROUGIR 12/1 Deauville win and EW bet. AURIA and POET OF LIFE, 2.40 and 3.15 Sandown, 100/30 and 2/1.

    York is hard this year, however, TASHKAN 14/1 and ILARAAB 14/1, 2.25 and 3.35, were backed last night EW.


  10. Firstly a thanks to Bacci – had a good few quid EW on your double. I now Have some Ammo for a big York perm today. A bit off fun! If it lands big I owe you a holiday ! If not then maybe a coffee….

    Rain looks like it has been falling so it won’t be rattling quick. I still think Being up with the pace will help on the Knavesmire. Have picked my perm horses accordingly. All in Skybets EW extra races.

    14.25 –
    king of castle 15/2 Nap
    Oman 22-1

    15.35 EBOR
    Mt Leinster – 9/2
    Global storm 11/1

    Aerion power 17/2 NB
    Fishable 12-1

    Rebel at dawn 8-1
    Showalong 6-1
    Miss nay never 20-1

    50p 4 folds and £2.5 ew on every horse. £69 outlay. Let’s see if get any of that back!


    1. You are very welcome! I’m glad someone is making a few bob…I haven’t had a bet in 17 years (since I moved to Italia 🇮🇹). I love trying to pick the odd medium priced winner just for the fun of it.

      A caffe would do just fine!!


  11. Syndicate 2 update .
    I’ve been looking at horses that are ready to run now for the upcoming NH season. I’ve found 4 that will suit , the one I really want is a 3 yo gelding that’s in the sales at the end of the month. Hes only had 2 runs on the flat but has shown enough and he will make a cracking hurdler and dual purpose horse as hes built for the job.Hes French bred and has the FR suffix so qualifies for all the premiums there. I’m trying to get the owners to sell him pre sale and I’m meeting them on Monday.

    Of the other three , two are on free lease (with option to buy terms ) the third ones owners want more than I think hes worth on what hes shown so far on the flat and I’m checking him over mid week.
    DN has done a great job organising the first syndicate which is now closed ,dealing with all the paperwork that’s now required leaving me free to do my part. Hes had significant interest in forming the second one already so if anyone else is interested please let us know .


    1. would love to get involved but probably not feasible from half a world away in locked down Australia. It’s a bit barmy here. They shot some dogs at a rescue home yesterday because of fears of Covid. we are under a lockdown now – it’s the 200th day out of the last 365 – in Melbourne and there is a curfew on between 9pm and 5am. With spring coming I suspect no night racing! And very few foreign raiders, although Johnny Murtagh wants to bring the Ebor winner and ”kick Aussie butt” as he put it..


  12. Going update – mate at York says dry and warm at moment. Reckons this morning’s will have had little effect – but of course more forecast for later on.


  13. 3 out of 4 of my last naps have come dead last (one virtually pulled up) and the 4th nap a non-runner. Yet all 4 have been well backed, so there’s no shortage of other idiots out there.

    My nap today is MIGRATION in the 16:45 at York.

    In the 02:00 (I think I’ve got the time right) at Del Mar, former Dundalk winner GOING GLOBAL and daughter of Mehmas ridden by Flavien Prat is worth a look at. I’m sure sorrymess would agree.


    1. Jonathan,
      How many runners were in those races where your nap finished last?
      My unofficial scoring system for the Booby Prize awards 50 point bonuses for the nap that finishes last and a point for every Horse ahead of it.
      So Alpine Star gave me 58 points by finishing last in the Marois in an 8 runner field.
      It needs to be a minimum of 5 runners to get the bonus.
      Like getting a 7 letter Scrabble word I thought Alpine Star had done enough for me but it seems you have sneaked up on the rail.
      Still there is enough time to the finishing post for me to collar the August Booby Prize yet.


        1. I just need to relax and trust my instincts.
          I will not pay heed to the wise heads on this Forum.
          I will do my own thing and see where it takes me.


  14. Nice to see everyone doing what we love to to do despite the ups and downs over the years – still bouncing back with tips and bets. I’m convinced that, in moderation, it keeps you young at heart. Thanks to all.


    1. And thanks to you Joe for hosting and putting up the HitList each day – its been a lot of fun since the move from the Guardian. Cheers


  15. Today’s NAP is TASHGHEEL EW in the 5.20 York. 16/1 or so as I scrawl. Recently bought out of D Weld’s stable by Grant Tuer, first outing for the new owners/trainer.

    The other interesting one to mention in that race is Imperium Blue , N Tinkler, Faye McManoman, also 16’s.. (I do like a speculative outsider …)


  16. Thx Steely. Better done to Jamie if he got 20s. I don’t know if quite enough rain is falling for Mt Leinster, might stay at good going unless there’s a downpour soon. If I could be bothered I’d have Mirann as a back-up.


  17. The one day I didn’t up put up a nap and my one bet of the day wins the Ebor. Oh, well. I’ll just have to give myself a pat on the back.


  18. A rare pop above the parapet! 20.10 Curragh – Sky paying 6 Places instead of 4 – Fine Distraction – Currently 16/1 – E/W


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