Talking Horses Sunday August 22nd 2021

Back with a winning nap on the Hitlist is Rob J who has been promising a return to form. Space Blues won at 11/8 and 2/5 chance Reach For The Moon completed Rob’s advised double.

David’s nap was a NR, but Ravenscraig Castle kept up his great week finishing 2nd at 18/1 to land the suggested EW bet. Still going well, David.

Dirty Northerner is back on the list, his nap Vadeni winning at 5/4 in France and his EW selection Rougir placed at 12/1. Good to see you hit form again DN.

Jonathan Dawe has also shown recent signs of a resurgence and his nap Migration went in at 3/1. Good work, JD.

Yet another good place bet landed for Robicheaux with Max Vega – 33/1 – in The Ebor. Fine consistency Robicheaux.

Rakib’s nap let him down, but his next best, Valley Forge scooted in at 10/1. Great work, Rakib.

The blog’s nap Euchen Glen ran well for a long way before that 10.2 told. Of the others I mentioned, Stylish Performer won at 10/1. I, of course, backed it at 5s! My nap for today will be posted before the start of racing.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the August Winners thread.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at the Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners thread for each month.

We also have a Lounge thread for general chat, though as a forum we are a bit limited to what WordPress, our host here, provides as far as structure goes.

Thanks for looking in. Good luck with your bets today, but please bear in mind that this is meant to be ‘fun’. There are many wise heads posting tips here and we haven’t yet gone a day without somebody tipping a winner. But never bet more than you can afford to lose. Small stakes can still produce wide smiles.

All the best


  1. My nap is Cyclamen in the 16.05 at Naas. It is around 6 or 7/4.
    I know you think it may be a Dutch word for people using Bicycle lanes but in fact it isn’t that at all
    It is a Plant.
    I know there are serious Horticulturalists on this Forum.
    I am not one of them.
    There is a good chance Quai sychthed down a Cyclamen last weekend.

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    1. Not one of those updated Dr. Who unwatchable Cyber enemy things either. The Cyclamen do not exist.
      It is just a plant.


    2. Thank you for reminding me that I have not checked on the cyclamen here in the garden. No chance of it being scythed as it is planted next to a lime tree (tilleul) in a flower bed (parterre) and no scything took place there. It was imported from South Devon where I have quite massive ones growing whose corms resemble old logs…Will report if it has survived. I have got several sarcoccus growing strongly (also imported when it was possible to do so before UK left the EU). These provide a beautiful perfume when they flower in the winter (which our neighbours can enjoy).

      A local festival has been taking place called the “Mouttonades” (Covid passes needed to attend (pass sanitaire)). The food speciality there is termed “frivolites” which are fried up sheeps’ testicles (allegedly) (being a vegetarian, I can’t vouch for that). Now, where can I find a horse with a name to back realted to all that? Will have to look tomorrow morning.


      1. I would see no reason to serve Lamb’s Testicles and call it something else.
        They cost next to nothing.
        A Ram’s Testicles is something else. They cost money.
        I can only say scan one Race card at a time.
        Does B United in the 13.25 at Naas not tick a box?
        Nothing you will eat today or back today has a closer relationship to things going on at B United for me.


  2. I was with you at 5/1 Joe, saw the drift, but distracted by the cricket! Meant to top up…….. Still a well delivered win! My effort was pants!!!

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  3. Trying to find a longshot for tomorrow…Lucky’s Dream 16:20 Sand….28/1 EW. 6 places sky. My theory is, last ran at Carlisle 4th of 13. Carlisle and Sandown both right hand tracks with a stiffish uphill finish. Carries less weight and less distance, new jockey compared to others that have ridden…Ian Williams can spring surprises. Am prepared to be shot down.


  4. The nap is ARMOR backed at 7/2 (enhanced price), Deauville 2.50 win bet and in a double with yesterday’s winner VADENI, also at Deauville. CORMIER 15/2 Sandown 5.45, was backed at York, then withdrawn, and is also an EW selection with GIVE IT SOME TEDDY 11/1, also EW wins and double.


  5. Hersilia 2.50 Brighton is todays nap.I am sorry that the York Ebor meeting is over for another year as it was very enjoyable. Well done to all yesterdays winners.


  6. SHUT UP MICHAEL runs in the 3.55 at Sandown. I smiled at the comment in the RP – “14,000gns 2yo; half-brother to 6f-1m6f winner (RPR 83); others appeal more on paper.”


    1. Now Michael will say that you’re as fixated about him as he is about Frank. He actually said something moderately sensible a couple of days ago – hard to believe, I know.
      Just heading off to golf (in Wishaw of all places) so will continue my winning run of one (not that I remembered to post it) on my return.


          1. For someone who is so disparaging about this forum, our mate Michael seems to spend a lot of time keeping an eye on us.


  7. Streets of doyen nap (wor) 13:00. Doubled with king of conquest NB (sand) 15:55.

    EW individual fancies.

    Czech her out 8/1 (16:10 wor)
    Manettino 9/1 (4 places) 16:50 (sand)
    Blue de vega 12/1 (5 places) 17:20 (sand)
    Yagood 9/1 (5 places) 17:45 (sand)
    Tommy G 17/2 (6 places) 18:45 (sand)

    £1 Ew accumulator, 10p Ew 4 fold/ treble (total bet £5) pays roughly £118k, wish me luck!


  8. The odd thing a out Dr Who is how touchy the fans are. Anything vaguely critical earns you an ire equivalent to insulting a Mafia Don’s Mother.

    Today’s nap is Contingency fee Brighton 5pm with the caveat that the weight will stop it at some point. Just once in the Worcester 3.40 carries the next best.


  9. Nap: Dabana (a juicy 5/2 right now) to beat Cyclamen in the 4.05 Naas. The former is on a natural progression of 3, 2 and hopefully 1, whereas the plant likes to finish in an even-numbered position (6th, 2nd and 4th so far) -not much help when you hope to win a race. Colin Keane rode a treble yesterday so will be full of confidence.
    NB: Armor 2.50 Deauville. A very competitive Group 1 sprint there, this Hannon horse beat Fearby at Goodwood into a cocked hat last time out. Fearby didn’t entirely frank the form at York and it’s an extra furlong but he wasn’t for stopping that day on softer ground. 3/1 seems generous.


  10. Nap. Thundering nights. Deauville 3.25.
    Nb. Recon mission. Sandown 5.25. 14/1 ew.
    Going to have a walk up to Brighton races today. I’m only 10 minutes away.
    Best of luck !


  11. The blog’s nap is Lyndon B in the 6.45 at 14/1. I think that this might be his time of year, and he has decent speed figures. I’ll be including him in EW doubles and win singles with Global Spirit 6.45 and in the 4.20 Fountain Cross. and Sweet Reward at Sky’s extra places.

    Good luck


  12. By the way folks—I’ve not really kept in touch with blog movements over the summer, so I’m not sure who’s migrated here from the Guardian and who hasn’t. Does Harry The Actor ever turn up in these parts? I would miss his string of bumper winners in the NH season (among his other qualities).


  13. Although I didn’t nap GOING GLOBAL for this morning’s (02:03 British Summer Time) race at Del Mar, I did suggest a serious look at him. He duly obliged rather cozily at 7/5. I’m pretty sure he should count as a winning nap for naymargus (ex sorrymess).

    2 year old Nursery races are probably not the best type of race in which to pick a nap, but I’m selecting MANETTINO in the 16:50 at Sandown Park.


  14. Nap is Heavey in the imminent 1.35 at Worcester 4/1, top weight but will stay and a lot of the rest have been pulled up recently.

    NB is Solstalla at the same venue 3.10 11/2. The drift is ominous but she might still outclass the rest.


  15. NAP today floundered in heavy ground at Goodwood last time when we’ll fancied. Another chance given to
    6.45 FARASI LANE 13/2 ew (6 places) Skybet
    Next Best
    4.20 Sandown ANDALEEP 9/1 ew (5 places) BetVictor/888
    6.15 URBAN VIOLET 16/1 ew (4 places) Bet Victor

    Each Way Lucky 31
    50p ew Lucky 31 Skybet
    4.20 Sandown ANDALEEP 9/1 (1/5, 5)
    4.50 Sandown JUNGLE BEE 12/1 (1/5, 4)
    5.20 Sandown NELSON GAY 9/1 (1/5, 5)
    5.45 Sandown CORMIER 8/1 (1/5, 5)
    6.45 Sandown LYNDON B 12/1 (1/5, 6)


  16. My bets today are at Worcester. 3.10 Thahab Ifraj 3.40. Get an Oscar 4.10 Mini Crest and 4.45 Faitque de l’isle. Singles and a Yankee.


  17. On our way home from a reasonable round at Wishaw. Smashing course with lovely people. Get It is my nap in the 7.20 at Sandown.


  18. Today’s NAP is YOUNG ANGEL , 3.30 Naas, 13/2 as I scraw….

    Very well done to those who found winners yesterday.
    Here, the ciclamino is sold in pots in the late autumn/winter to give a tad of colour to a winter terrazzo…. The ones we bought last year were wilting in the unseasonable heat ! It’s been a good few years since we had a proper winter….


  19. Actually had some time to look at the Sandown card today and have come up with the following life changer!!

    4.50 Arboy Will
    5.20 Beyond Equal
    5.45 Vis a vis
    6.15 One Small Step
    6.45 Beucephalus

    Have a lovely day everyone


    1. Agree Quai – bookies had her noted at 50-1 yesterday. Decided to take a bite again instead of betting her today. She drifted out to 5s on the exchange. Here’s hoping she gets to the Arc safe and sound.


        1. Rouget might, though.

          Sorry to see Cigamia make a telling appearance in the “Cyclamen” race (Irish EBF Median Sires Series (F) M´dn), given your bet. First time out, Mr McCreery and Nathan Crossse get it to hit the bull’s eye (33-1). Sire Karakontie (Breeders’ Cup winner). Dam’s sire Lemon Drop Kid.


      1. Agree all round. I’m holding AP bets on her from last year when 33s looked generous. The 50s were laughable and a damn good EW bet. Demuro’s celebration today was not just for the win, but for the process.


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