Talking Horses Monday August 30th 2021

First on the Hitlist in yesterday’s results was Jamie with Arnold, advised e/w to 5 places at 17/2 came 3rd (@12’s). Next up The Steelman with Media Guest, advised 9/2 EW comes neck 2nd at 13/2; nice work, gentlemen.

Good to see QuaiDB on the list with Deauville winner – GLYCON, 7-4 when posted. Dirty Northerner also napped Glycon to finish a good week at Deauville. And Alan remains bang in form with his nap, Bond Power, advised EW at 11/1, won at 6/1. Well done.

The blog’s nap returned to normal service – 4th.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the August Winners thread.

My nap today is Garden Oasis, 3.40 Ripon at around 5/1.

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  1. The nap is HATCHER 15/8 Cartmel 3.30. NB is ENKINDLE 15/8 Epsom Downs 2.00.Then also POET’S MAGIC evens also on the Downs at 5,.30. Win bets on the first two and doubles and trebles.


    1. Joe, just to clarify that Arnold tip was on Saturday. He ran again yesterday as evens favourite (I think) and came 2nd.


  2. I don’t know why Roscommon Racecourse cannot argue their case to the IHRB for meetings to be run on other days aside from graveyard Monday.
    I worked in Roscommon for 6 months and they just seem to put up with life as they know it without ever fighting back.
    The opener is a weird race with 2 stables (Lyons and Harrington) who seem to be back in the groove.
    I am napping Tuwaiq in the 16.10 at Roscommon.
    In the same race Eighty Eight runs for JP Murtagh at 33/1.
    Murtagh knows the form as he beat (not literally) that Horse with a Stablemate last time.
    He is by Dragon Pulse and we know the number 88 will not last long on the HK Exchanges so get on at place only at 33s for some value as my N.B.


  3. Dragon or Dragons becoming a regular theme on this blog…the only link that i can find for tomorrow is Firepower in the 15:10 Epson..


  4. Another mugs double tomorrow but at big prices so i will put them in a 25p ew double as bank holiday racing seems to have some unexpected results … Jj Nester 13:10 Downpatrick and Jjs Ascot 17:45 Roscommon pays about £700

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  5. NAP today is Titan Rock at Epsom in the 3.10 at 2/1. You May get 5/2 or 9/4 if money comes for Corazan espinado.
    I think this drop back to a class 3 should suit and as a 3yo he is ok at the weights vs others. He has been running well enough in class 2 races. This is much calmer waters. Quinn yard have been in the winners recently.


  6. Nap today is Chavajod in the 5.10 at Roscommon. The form of his last two runs are working out very well and the 3/1 available looks generous


  7. Drifting out this morning but nap is Renbawi 15/8, 1.55 Ripon. Johnston horses are winning, it’s slowly improving , out of Dubawi as the name suggests and not related to dragons..has to win this class 6 hcap.


    1. Could be a quick 7-minute double for the Johnston’s too. NB is their Enkindle send down to Epsom 2.00, well-backed already for its debut, 7/4. Kindle, fire, dragons …oh no!


  8. I’ll add to the Cartmel suggestions with Dressesedforsucess in the 4 o cliock. I’ve a vague recall that bank holiday racing at Cartmel throws up the odd big price winner but on quite an interesting betting day – my tracker offered 5 options – I’ll nap this one. A couple of the others having already been suggested.


  9. For a Bank Holiday Monday it is unusually moderate fare today. OK, Cartmel puts on a fun show and it will be great for families holidaying in the Lakes. Ripon has five moderate races framing two of their longstanding prizes, the Ripon Rowells and the Billy Nevett Memorial. I am staggered by the pitiful prize money on offer at Chepstow. It betrays a desperate lack of self-confidence from the racecourse management that they bid to have a meeting today then when it comes to it they put on such dismal fare. An exciting card that attracted good horses would surely have drawn some staycationers from the west of England and those holidaying on the coast in south Wales, Mumbles etc. The contrast with what they do up at Cartmel is stark. I honestly don’t know why they bother with Flat racing there – all their eggs seem to be in the jumping basket these days. Still, it’s not that long now till the Persian War Hurdle card in October and hopefully the jumping fraternity will flock there to enjoy a day at that lovely course.


  10. Actually it was the (soi disant) Champion 2yo Trophy I meant as the second of Ripon’s feature races, in which 40/1 is a bit insulting about Ed Bethell’s Eidikos. She was “expected” three weeks ago on her Beverley debut in a weak maiden,and duly obliged but looked as green as a Bramley apple in doing so. They are putting a hood on her today and I expect her to improve – she needs to against a few experienced but not stellar 2yos.

    Chepstow 5.05 CASPIAN QUEEN 11/4 (nap)
    Ripon 3.05 EIDIKOS 40/1 e.w. (n.b.)


  11. Excellent, Joe. I was too preoccupied with the garden today to notice what the naps were, but just before lunch, having started to mow the 1500sq metres of herbage and in doing so had to move a huge quantity of bamboo that I had had to cut down, I saw Bamboo Bay running in the 18.45 at Roscommon and got on at 7-1, it won at 7-2. At the same time, I saw that Monty’s Way was running in the next race and I got on that at 12-1 which won at 7-1. (I am a regular watcher of Monty Don’s gardening programme, though I think it’s mighty precious a lot of the time. (You won’t get him growing cress on the windowsill). Had I seen Joe’s tip that would have made up the gardening trio. What’s in a name? You could say I was just lucky to win on a mug’s double and it would have been even luckier on a mug’s treble. But the two selections were JP O’Brien trained – maybe he’s hitting a good period. There is more to names than meets the eye and I shall be adding some more thoughts on that topic in due course. I should add that I had three losing selections, today, too.


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