Talking Horses Saturday September 4th 2021

Jakebuckfast was despairing of his recent run and fate dropped by yesterday to send his nap home first when Uncle Bryn won at 5/2. Welcome back to the Hitlist, Jake!

Rob J also had a successful nap with Saaty at 11/8. Well done, Rob.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the September Winners thread.

The blog’s nap is Sunrise Valley at 11/4 in the 4.20.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at The Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners Thread for each month.

What This Blog Is For

As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

We are now in a position to open this main daily article to all subjects. It can be very enjoyable when something is latched onto by our knowledgeable, quick-witted posters as they indulge in wordplay and jousting. We still want tips of course, from those who want to tip. It’s by no means an obligation.

If you do post a tip/nap, just include it with whatever subject you are discussing, preferably at the foot of your post. So long as you remember to come back after a winner and put the details of that win in the monthly Winners Thread, then we can include you on the Hitlist in the next day’s main article.

General guidance: No swearing, please. We’re not prudes, it’s just that there is wide scope in the swearword lexicon and we do not have moderators (and hope we’ll never need them). Also, please keep discussions on politics and religion to The Lounge section, though brief references to these subjects in the main article are not forbidden.

Thanks for looking in. If you are betting, especially if you follow our tipsters, good luck with your bets, but please bear in mind that this is meant to be ‘fun’. There are many wise heads posting tips here and we haven’t yet gone a day without somebody tipping a winner. But never bet more than you can afford to lose. Small stakes can still produce wide smiles.

All the best


  1. Just when I was having a really good run…this week has been terrible…be advised that Saturday is usually my worst day for tipping…but after the week that i have had it could get better or go downhill even further…only one way to find out…EW Nap is Autumn War 14:55 Hay…currently 10/1 4 places PP


  2. I can’t see anything to back today.
    No, Literally. The tumbleweed is blowing across my Racecards.
    I know this is one of those weekends before but still.
    I cannot understand how a Horse called Sharjah can be running in the 16.45 at Navan trained by A. Slattery (who bought Faugheen) and not W. Mullins. 2 Horses with the same name in close Stable proximity. No wonder Naymargus gets in altercations in PP over betting slip confusion.
    I am going to Wexford for my nap in the 15.55.
    Allardyce is around 3/1.
    I know you have guessed the Pedigree already based on the name and you are right. He is by Black Sam Bellamy (a favourite of Slowhandray) out of Woore Lass.
    This will be his 44th Race under NH rules and he is still only 9.


  3. Lord Glitters in the Haydock 1.45 is nap. Chalk Stream in the Ascot 3.10 looks banker Ew material at about 7/1 (mind you I said same last week about Significantly)


  4. Following yesterday where I napped a previous nap that didn’t win, I’m going to do the same over in Wexford (14:10) today, when another chance is given to Christmas jumper (nap) 5/1. Good luck all


  5. Nb: Dragon’s Call 5/1. (E/W 4 places)1.50 Navan. Obvious reasons.
    NB: Valley Forge 6/4 2.20 Haydock -price not as nice as the 10s he won the Melrose at but it is less competitive!


      1. No nap or nb, yikes! Enters the dawe-g-house A more tactical race for Valley Forge to contend with – running out of room before staying on again suggests Probert would have been better off taking the Johnston horse on for the lead. Horse clearly has bags of stamina and the experience will help it and the jockey, hopefully!


  6. Last weeks winner presentandcounting out again at Stratford but it’s short enough at 8 to 11 so I’ll nap Rythm is a dancer in the Stratford 3.05. Paul nicholls only runner of day.


  7. An EW nap with one of the books giving extra places,up to 1st 5 in a place on Indianapolis 2.55 Haydock.Well done to Robj for yesterdays winner.


  8. Small ew lucky 15 cos i’m brain dead after going through the cards…with a space/astronomical theme …16:20A Rising Star…16:25K Starry Eyes…17:15H Star Shield….17:25W Rocket Dancer…


  9. Morning all,
    Try again, a bit of peace and quiet this morning, took the kids to the park and left them there so I could do a bit of studying. They’ll be OK, one is 27, the other is 30.

    Ascot 3.45 Top Secret
    Haydock 2.20 Contact (NAP)
    Kempton 3.15 Guiseppe Cassioli
    Thirsk 3.25 Mossbawn (Treble)
    Wolverhampton 5.25 Far From A Ruby (Nb)

    Good luck to all on a busy day


    1. If they were younger I’d say try it the other way round next week- you go to the park and leave your kids at home to study the Racing Post. They’d have been tipping genii in no time…


  10. Are the Burchells going for a touch at Stratford with Wilde Water today?? Dai used to do well in handicap hurdles there back in the day so that will do for the nap, even if the 14-1 has long since vanished!!

    The others paying for a new yacht are

    Rajinsky in the big handicap at Haydock
    ALfaadhel to maintain the Varian yard’s record in the race
    Followed by Bashir and Popmaster also at Ascot.

    Have fun people.


  11. My NAP today is Silver Samurai 3.45A EW 12-1 (4 places), double it with Glodal Storm in 2.55.
    And done a slightly sentimental EW trixie on 2.55 Hochfeld, 3.30 Glen Shiel, 3.10 Stay well


  12. My Nap for today is in a race on my side of The Atlantic albeit on the other coast at Del Mar. GOING TO VEGAS Race 9 at about 01;37 BST on Sunday. Based on current form (mine not the horse), probably not worth staying up for.


  13. Just been through the cards again and found another lucky 15 to go with my theme today Lunastar 14:10 Wex….. Soaring Star 15:25 T….Star seeking 16:20A…Neptunes wonder 16:25K


  14. Some of the results so far today are a tad crazy, lots of big priced winners. So I’m going a tad crazy myself…….today’s NAP is The Lady’s Bid, EW at 16/1 or so, 4.20 Navan. After yesterday’s debacle, it can’t get any worse!

    Well done to yesterday’s winning tipsters. Good luck with your bets today.


    1. Yes, although maybe 1/3 for Hukum just now was a bit crazy – people confusing him with his brother, methinks. He’s in action tomorrow, of course, and should justify similar odds.


    2. I’ve long had a suspicion/theory that when a lot of favourites win on the same day, the next day is ‘one for the bookie’s’, with lots of short price favourites losing. Yesterday there were a lot of favourites that won…


    3. The NAP wasn’t quite last…a pity because if it was, I could at least be in the running for EGS’s booby prize, that is if I could work out how the scoring system works!!


  15. Also did ew double with Motawaafeq which paid and am now chancing An EW with Mokaatil in the 16:55A as all three have similar type names….It is an Ian Williams horse…sure that he is due a winner


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