Talking Horses Thursday October 14th 2021

Rakib is building a solid October Hitlist performance with another nap winning today – Embittered at 5/4: well done.

El Gran Senor’s nap Galvin (I think he’ll turn out a very decent horse) winning at an advised 11/10 and an SP of 1/1. Nice work, EGS.

It’s good to see Alan bounce back with a winning nap in Flight Deck at 9/4. Good stuff, Alan.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the Winners thread.

The Blog’s nap was 5th. The blog’s Thursday nap is Friends Don’t Ask in the 2.55 Wincanton at 3/1 BOG.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at The Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

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What This Blog Is For

As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

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All the best


  1. The first 3 Races at the Curragh look brutal but I am man enough for it.
    In the 12.40 the most expensive Horse ever to be sent to J. Harrington is called Paris Blues.
    He is a FB to St. Mark Basilica and would have cost at least
    double the price with Aftertiming.
    I believe he will he will flop today and the Galileo Sire of the half brother to Ivawood is my n.b at 6/1 called Dalmatian Ocean.
    I can’t decide. A 9F Furlong Race on soft with 2yos. A Camelot trained by JPOB called Como Park or a Camelot trained by APOB called Olympic Flame.
    Actually I can decide.
    Olympic Flame in the 13.10 at the Curragh is my nap..


    1. Jeeez you love the obriens.
      Am watching denis Hogans and jny levins.
      I never meet guys who go bookies or racing anymore no whispers.
      I been following ivawood and mehmas not much luck.
      Not bother with my pal the agha khan either.
      Im saving myself for Wesley wards and tyler glafyone in usa..i find it hard to log on here .take care


  2. The best tip that I can offer for tomorrow is to watch Barney Curley on BBC iPlayer and then drop a donation to DAFA. No naps these days as they are all shorties in the unknown territory of the unravelling flat and the early days of the turf. But then, where would we be without Milton in the last two days?


  3. Sir Mark B , is as good a horse as ive seen off late. I love the ones with pace in the locker.

    Paris blues, who named that? But worth a wee look.

    Cheers as always EGS for your advice and humour.


    1. David,
      Paris Blues is not a bad name in itself. It is the name coined for the genre of Chanteuse singers like Piaf and Frehel who filled the Paris Music Halls between the mid 20s to mid 50s. It is the only music I want to hear over dinner in a Parisian style Bistro.
      However the name would be a concern on Arc day.


      1. Er, it’s Paris Lights chaps surely ..🤣 worth noting for Mr Dawe that Le Dragon Noir 🐉🖤 is in that race too but is one of the few not expected to win, sadly. Le Dragon Noir sounds like a nightclub where someone called Paris Lights might perform. Dalmatian Coast is a half-brother to a decent Ivawood apparently. The Tabor silks haven’t been firing recently though (unless I’m mistaken..)


        1. If EGS’s theory (I have no evidence to doubt EGS’s theories) is correct Dragon horses only win every 10 races, therefore Le Dragon Noir will be the 4th Dragon to run in the UK and Ireland since a last victory and thus will certainly lose,

          Nap is LOKOYA ROAD in the 20:49 at Belmont Park. Morning Line 9/2.

          Note to self. Never back own nap, always back everyone else’s nap.


        2. Rakib,
          Many thanks for your polite corrections. A pity I have already handed over a docket with Paris Blues in a forecast clearly written down in indelible ink.
          It is not just the Tabor Silks. It is not the 21 consecutive Ballydoyle losers coming up to today. It is not the fact that all 21 losers were not even placed. It is the fact that nobody could be surprised that all 21 were not placed.


          1. ‘Twas the other Harrington (dark) horse that won I see…the Newtown Anner Stud silks don’t seem to have the same problem as Coolmore’s liquorice allsorts. Except the enclave that comprises the Westerberg horses…is Luxembourg definitely running in the Futurity? 7/4 on the Antepost suggests yes.


    1. That’s an NR, mickle. I know because I had it in an overnight betslip and that selection has been faded out!

      E/w nb is Chacha Dancer (11/2, 4 places) 3.25 Curragh. Was pushing our Dha Leath to the line last week and is up a bit in trip, should go well.
      Nap is Wisper at 15/4, 4.30 Brighton.


  4. Get Back Get Back ran well in 2nd last week when an EW nap,so I will stick with him in the 2.20 Win @ 4/1 for a win nap today.Well done yesterdays winners.


  5. Just went to back the above horse and could only get 7/2 so will not claim it at 4/1.That will teach me to back the nap first before posting.


  6. A tricky day.There’s a mugs doubles with two Wolf horses running in consecutive races – not quite dragons but fierce enough. There’s Young Wolf in the Wincanton 2.55 and Cry Wolf in the 3.30. the former can be the nap and both can be found about 4 to 1.


  7. Fosters’island in the 16:15 at Carlisle catches my eye. Can see question marks: might want it softer, might need the run after a while off. But it’s a drop back in class from the last two runs, and the claimer takes 7lb off. The market doesn’t much like anything else in the race: this one is 9/4 and nothing else is shorter than 5/1. So perhaps there is no, ahem, value in the price. All the same, I’ll have a dibble, and I’ll even write “nap” here to play the game.


      1. Good try, but faller in race so unfortunately doesn’t qualify. EGS has strict rules, he even DQ’d his own attempt for not meeting the minimum number of runners standard.


  8. Another nice winner for Milton H and well backed too. Mr Yeats won well at Wincanton. Done a few quid the other day on his horse Mi Laddo who I thought had a great chance. He was very unlucky to be fair. Money from that bet back today. Apologies if this sounds like an after time but I’ve not bet anything else. I’ve Been keeping an eye on Miltons ones and the ones that have been getting hit in the betting. Especially after DN has highlighted a few of his winners across the last few weeks.
    A trainer that is still well in form so I suggest you all keep an eye too !


  9. Pish. Nap Wisper mown down late on, and Chacha slow out of the gates, almost recovered to get a place. An almost day. Cries like a wolf


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