Talking Horses Wednesday October 20th 2021

On catchup from Monday Jonathan Dawe landed his nap with Aradena at 2/1. Good to see you back on the Hitlist, JD.

Yesterday, David’s nap An Taillur won at 6/5 having been advised at 5/4. Still going strong this month, David.

Another turbo priced EW NB for Alan in Jordan Electrics, placed at 28/1. Nice one, Alan.

Rakib’s EW tip Midgetonamission was placed at 17/2 having been advised at 13/2. Well done.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the Winners thread.

The blog’s nap was 2nd. Nap for Wednesday is Taste The Fear in the 3.58 Worcs at 10/3 BOG

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As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

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All the best


    1. Hopefully won’t be a tearjerker like the film of the same name.

      No dragons today. The next dragon to run will be a winner according to EGS’s theory.

      Nap is WIND YOUR NECK IN at Newmarket in the 15:15. Appears to be well backed or possibly odds shortened because of NRs. I see Alan has already selected him, so at least I’m in rarefied company.


      1. If I wasn’t wary of being burned by SDS pipping Ryan Moore again I’d nap this horse too…good luck you two! Hopefully Mr Moore’s luck has changed with his first winner from 46 rides -I think it was – yesterday. May we all pocket some profit today…🐉🐉💲💲


    1. “He has done everything right at home, jumps and works well and is a nice horse,” according to the trainer. His price has fluctuated madly since yesterday, from as big as 9/1 to as tight as 4s.

      Chancycourt in the second division is also highly regarded, but is possibly more of a staying type. I have done the double because there’s a bit of lightning forecast this afternoon.


  1. It must be difficult to win 3 Handicaps in a row in October in 3 consecutive years. Maybe not.
    My nap is an e.w double on Teddy Boy in the 13 45 at Navan today who has done this twice already plus Molls Memory in the 15.58 at Newbury on Friday who has also done that twice with only 2 Lbs extra (rain badly needed).
    As that nap won’t appear in my winners thread till Saturday I will make my n.b. today a Horse called Leitrim Glory in the 13.15 at Navan.
    I missed out on an e.w. on Dromod Lad at 16/1 2 weeks back which was named after the local village a few minutes walk from where I grew up. So, I can hardly miss out on a whole bleeding county of Leitrim.


  2. Mixed fortunes yesterday with the Midget achieving its mission (awarded a Bronze medal for its troubles) and the nap Bearwith losing by about a (polar) bear’s width. Highlights of the Wed. alphabet: (Nap) Ucanaver 5/4, Worcs 4.33. NB Coral 4/1 2.13 Worcs.


  3. As (like many on dilton’s mailing list) I’ll be wanting another horse to win the 14:48 at Worcester, so I shall give it the best shot by napping the favourite onethreefivenotout. Good luck all.


      1. One of the greatest innings of all time. He’s a strange one Stokes has got a very rare ability (especially with the bat) to take the match away from the opposition or bring us back into contention) which very few have. Arguably should have a higher average with the bat given his ability (probably the best batting all rounder since Kallis) and is arguably a bit underused as a bowler which is why his bowling average is maybe not as good as it should be.


  4. Very good article in the RP explaining why the Arc offer of an extra 5 million quid prize money has been rejected. Does Arc think stable staff are robots. Any thoughts ?
    Compare that to yet another imported article in the G about events in Aussie that have no impact here .


    1. Now Dilton. I was unable to post a comment on the Graun article you mention so I commented on the previous racing article to the effect that I was ecstatic to read the Australian article since I’d been losing so much sleep worrying about the future of the gentleman in question. I can now sleep easily. And is it not a sign that the Graun’s commitment to racing hasn’t completely disappeared and that they’ll continue to bring us such hear-warming stories?
      Re the RP article, haven’t read it so can’t comment, but I can’t imagine Arc doing anything that isn’t solely to their advantage. Hope you and the boss are both well. We don’t hear enough from you hear.


      1. Red carded yet ?
        Boss is doing ok thanks we are bit jittery today waiting for scan results but the hot weather here has done her the world of good. Back next week.
        Ed Woodward thinks womens footy and minority sport is so important and those riveting articles on Aussie matters fills the void left by Chris going.
        Hes very touchy though and I was put in solitary for 3 months for telling him what I thought in June of his anti racing stance and getting shot of Chris . I received a very woke email from a boss mod telling me I’m welcome to come back as long as I promise that I would not repeat such behaviour in future.
        I hope you can guess my reply.
        Join the syndicate , a third horse has now been added ,a stunning beautifully bred yearling colt that has 2 yo written all over him and I’m working on getting a top class staying chaser for syndicate 2 for Milton Harris to train for us . DN ,Paul has done a brilliant job in organising and sorting the financial side ,its non profit and great value .


        1. Thanks, again. I’ve thought long and hard about joining the syndicate from the get-go but, notwithstanding previous irritating experiences with syndicate ownership, finances are now stretched with helping out children and grandchildren out over the last, difficult few months so disposable income is reduced. Friends actually asked if I wanted to join them in ownership with Noel Fehily’s syndicate in the summer, but my enthusiasm for racing has waned over the last year. But I have bought my Cheltenham tickets so maybe that’ll get me back. Good luck with everything.


      2. Auldchiel, I have been banished to the Gulag on Guardian TH, but posted a meek and mild comment this morning re. the great news from Australia which we are so thankful to be kept abreast of. So far this has remained in place, tucked in on the rail behind your wonderful portion of heavy irony. I then tried my own essay in irony below Michael’s paean to Hollie Doyle, telling him off for being off-topic (the topic being – still – the Greg Wood piece on the Seven Deadly Sins of O. Murphy). Unfortunately, the mods took a dim view of this and removed all trace of the post without even wasting a precious red card. So it’s back to the Gulag for your correspondent. I note also that all my Guardian posts since the end of July have been excised. I don’t suppose there’ll be many tears shed in this scepter’d isle, but I can’t help feeling slightly miffed.


  5. Go As You Please 1.55 Fontwell @ 5/2 is todays nap.Well done to all yesterdays winners.
    I have not read the article in the Racing Post,but nothing Arc did would surprise me .


  6. Nap today is sticking with Jonjo and Aldici in the 14.30 at Fontwell ( 9/2), As everyone is going ew i’ll also put up an interest in his Gulliver Colognes in the novice chase at worcester 14.13 ( 10-1).


    1. Well done Alan for the 28/1 shot yesterday which must wrap up the October Hitlist for you.
      It was a close contest but I think you might edge me on that single tip.
      I am particularly impressed that you could write down Jordan Electrics on a docket before passing it over the counter.
      My right hand would go in to Dr. Strangelove mode if I I tried to write that.


      1. Thanks for the compliment..was ew on Teddy Boy…just miffed that yesterday Lucinda Russell went in at 14s..unfortunately reluctant to tip after she let me down for a couple of weeks…knew one would romp home when I wasn’t tipping it on the blog..She has 8 out tomorrow at Carlisle which is going to make it more of a puzzle to solve.


        1. Alan,
          I know I shouldn’t be giving you betting advice as I have proved to be Bustino to your Grundy in our epic October Hitlist competition but I do know having a bet on Lucinda Russell for the next week is best left well alone. Betting with a sense of injustice doesn’t pay.


          1. Elgransenor,
            No injustice at all….The only person who knows., with pretty good confidence..are the trainers..but will be doing a multi bet tomorrow as Autumn is sometimes her best time of year…it’s going to be fun tomorrow…My home race course but unfortunately work beckons.


  7. The 16:45 at Fontwell looks like a weak sort of race, and I reckon Tractor Fred might be best placed to take advantage if he can go fresh. 13/2 currently. Call it a nap, eh.


  8. Cornsay,
    Are you tipping Tractor Fred subliminally in response to the nap of Alan yesterday called Jordan Electrics?
    Is this a thing to nap pieces of machinery? Sort out your subliminal tips to your real tips.


  9. Thanks, again. I’ve thought long and hard about joining the syndicate from the get-go but, notwithstanding previous irritating experiences with syndicate ownership, finances are now stretched with helping out children and grandchildren out over the last, difficult few months so disposable income is reduced. Friends actually asked if I wanted to join them in ownership with Noel Fehily’s syndicate in the summer, but my enthusiasm for racing has waned over the last year. But I have bought my Cheltenham tickets so maybe that’ll get me back. Good luck with everything.


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