TALKING HORSES Friday October 29th 2021

Changes afoot ... on November 1st the name of the blog will change from Talking Horses to Horsetalk. This blog was only meant to be a stopgap until a dedicated Talking Horses site was ready. I believe that is now not far away and when it is up and running will be publicised here for those who want to visit.


We’ve had good fun in the time we’ve been running this and I want to make some changes. As from November 1st there will be a dedicated naps table thread. The daily thread you are used to, updating the Hitlist results etc, will continue and anyone who wants to post tips, NBs general chat etc can continue doing so on this thread.

But in the naps thread all you will do is post one horse a day. Results and returns will be calculated at SP for everyone, saving hassle in determining early prices, BOG etc. A quick word with Barry Orr the other day about sponsoring the naps table brought a prompt and kind response: each month Betfair will provide two raceday tickets to one of its sponsored cards for the winner of the naps table. How we decide that winner will be discussed on tomorrow’s blog. The Betfair Tingle Creek on December 3rd could be the first ticket donation from Betfair, depending on how quickly we can get wheels in motion. More about this tomorrow too.

On to yesterday’s Hitlist and that man Alan struck again with his EW nap Uther Pendragon placed at 33/1. This follows one from him I missed on Wednesday, Dragon’s Fire EW, placed at 40/1. Astounding work, Alan. Well done.

Mickle is on the list for the second time this week with his nap Norley winning at 11/8. Nice one, Mickle.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the Winners thread.

The blog’s nap was nowhere. Friday’s nap is The Nu Form Way in the 4.15 Newmarket at 11/4 BOG.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at The Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners Thread for each month.

What This Blog Is For

As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

We are now in a position to open this main daily article to all subjects. It can be very enjoyable when something is latched onto by our knowledgeable, quick-witted posters as they indulge in wordplay and jousting. We still want tips of course, from those who want to tip. It’s by no means an obligation.

If you do post a tip/nap, just include it with whatever subject you are discussing, preferably at the foot of your post. So long as you remember to come back after a winner and put the details of that win in the monthly Winners Thread, then we can include you on the Hitlist in the next day’s main article.

General guidance: No swearing, please. We’re not prudes, it’s just that there is wide scope in the swearword lexicon and we do not have moderators (and hope we’ll never need them). Also, please keep discussions on politics and religion to The Lounge section, though brief references to these subjects in the main article are not forbidden.

Thanks for looking in. If you are betting, especially if you follow our tipsters, good luck with your bets, but please bear in mind that this is meant to be ‘fun’. There are many wise heads posting tips here and we haven’t yet gone a day without somebody tipping a winner. But never bet more than you can afford to lose. Small stakes can still produce wide smiles.

All the best


  1. It grieves me to have to Nap this but Dianne Sayer has Ahoy Senor out tomorrow Weth 14:05 10/11….don’t normally do short prices so don’t expect to much of a return from my 20p win…


    1. Alan, you could balance this shortie (for Lucinda Russell I think you meant) with Galahad Quest e/w 11s to follow up your Uther Pendragon Arthurian legends theme (not technically fitting the dragon theme really) ⚔️.. that’s the little saver for my nap in the later Wetherby race. As for Ahoy … obviously it’s been much hyped after that Aintree hurdles win so the price is short. I’d be worried about Ashtown Lad for the Skeltons – didn’t really progress as much over hurdles as the market kept thinking it would but there’s a good chance it’s a much better chaser. One to watch for me but good luck!


  2. My nap is a straight forecast for Zanahiyr to beat Cask Mate in the 14.20 at Down Royal at about 6/4.
    My n.b. is 10 mins. later at Newmarket where there is a scramble for Filly winning black type.
    The Clive Cox Benefit may have more scope but I am putting the tried and tested Pennine Hills with Desert Dreamer in a reverse forecast that should yield 8/1. Those two have put in the hard yards.


  3. Nap: The Nu form Way, 9/4, 4.15 Newmarket.
    NB: Good Boy Bobby, 11/5, 3.55 Wetherby.
    Treble: Vanillier, 9/4, 2.30 Down Royal. Trip may be too short for the last but he was all class in the Albert Bartlett and, well, he’s a grey so they always look like they’ll be even better as chasers. Really got the ball rolling on Gold Cup day for me so can’t desert him… not even if there were a 🐉 in the race! Best of luck, all…


      1. Thanks, Savoie, I think Galahad Quest was even more for the notebook. As the Racing TV guy said ‘won’t be 28/1 next time’ !


  4. Nap 2.40 wetherby
    Restandbethankful 9/4

    2nd run after wind op. 1st run got tired 2 out in a decent enough race. Should be fitter today in what looks an easier race.


  5. Prizes eh. Do those tickets come with luxury pickup up and a Free Champagne Bar? That would be nice…..

    I’m going to pass my chances of winning on to Nigel TD today who has two live chances but both in quite tricky races…. i’ll nap Stream of stars in the 4.55 at Wetherby and NB Good Boy Bobby in the 3.50 Wetherby. There are obvious dangers to both but its that kind of day.


  6. Looking at tomorrow’s card and I see Colin Tizzard has a few runners – does anyone know when Joe is taking over?
    (I thought it was happening this season.)
    I won’t bother with a NAP, as on current form, like ‘Barry’s Bismark’, I think it should be labelled ‘Luke’s Loser’!
    But I’ll probably try Miranda in 1.55W tomorrow, for what it’s worth… NAP competiton is a nice addition Joe.


  7. ”But in the naps thread all you will do is post one horse a day. Results and returns will be calculated at SP for everyone,”
    E/W or win only?
    Great prize for the naps. Thanks Betfair.


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