Talking Horses Saturday October 30th 2021

As the October Hitlist comes toward a close, early star David is back with a late charge napping Good Boy Bobby a 5/2 winner. Well done, David.

Rakib, never off the list for long, also tipped Good Boy Bobby as well as recommending an EW bet on Galahad Quest, placed at 28/1. EGS has the unusual honour of landing the first napped forecast which paid 1.81. Quirky, but good work, EGS.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the Winners thread.

The blog’s last three naps, all strong in the market, have run deplorably. I’m hoping Saturday’s nap, the unexposed Rattle Owl in the 3.40 Wetherby (11/2 BOG) will at least show his form. Jockey Oakley Brown (sounds like something off a Dulux colour card) is well worth his 5lbs.

And I’ll have a small bet on Slate House at a big looking 40/1 in the Bet365 hurdle at Wetherby. He was a smart young hurdler, but has never reached his potential over fences. He returns to hurdling after two and a half years. On the plus side, of his 6 seasonal debuts, he has won 3.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at The Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

If you tip a winner, please use the Winners thread to highlight your result and we’ll put you on the Hitlist next day. There is a Winners Thread for each month.

What This Blog Is For

As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

We are now in a position to open this main daily article to all subjects. It can be very enjoyable when something is latched onto by our knowledgeable, quick-witted posters as they indulge in wordplay and jousting. We still want tips of course, from those who want to tip. It’s by no means an obligation.

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All the best


  1. Once again it’s Saturday the hardest day of the week, in which i never do well…so nothing to lose..
    Nap is Boys on Tour 13:30 Muss 11/2
    NB EW is Songofthelark 13:00 Muss 33/1
    At least the pain shall be over early and i can enjoy the rest of the days racing and follow others tips….good luck to us all


      1. I saw a guy during week putting 300 on any favourite.
        Today he was saying he never loses at all if he sticks to dogs.
        I was wondering where he gets the bucks as he travels good distances to dogs at night.


        1. Brad Cox is the cash machine at Keeneland. Five winners Wed thru Fri, all steered by Florent Geroux. You must be in funds.


          1. Jeeeez i was thrilled with brads winners martin swartz who has horses wth ptwomey as well. .i rarely bet obriens horses i went big for Josephs jeeeeeez in keenland
            And wasted it in woodbine.
            I visited a guy in a nursing home and i never see so many old people i was so sad so i said im going to LIVE life fully in future.
            I spotted an ex paddy twomey in santa Anita.


            1. Top rated, won over 6f last time but has already won over this trip. Being by Footstepsinthesand she should relish this mile. 6/1 this morning.


  2. Nap: Minella Indo, Evs, 2.50 Down RoyalπŸ‰πŸ‰πŸ‰πŸ‰πŸ‰
    NB (E/W, 4 places) : Yafordadoe, 6/1, 2.15 Down Royal πŸ‰πŸ‰


  3. Very short price, but American Mike is the nap (16:35) Down Royal. As I’d follow plucky little Frodan of a cliff, Frodan is my NB 14:50


      1. I have a soft spot for Frodon after Cheltenham a couple of years ago. I don’t want to show too much of my lack of knowledge but What I don’t understand about todays result and the gold cup is how frodon was beaten (I want to say easily but apologies if anyone disagrees) in the gold cup and today beat both minella indo and galvin. Is it fitness, course or shorter distance?


  4. Morning all

    J increasingly think Ascot is a horses for courses track over the sticks, but I still can’t back Vinndication at those odds with that weight. The nap was to be Kid Commando, however he’s a bit short too. That leaves the old standby for me at this meeting of “one of Venetia’s coming back from a break” so the nap goes to Frero Banbou.

    Bonne chance mes amis


    1. I hear ya, Simon. I just posted this on twitter:

      Will Vinndication cliff followers be vindicated today?
      He’s 3 from 3 at Ascot: 7 from 8 right handed: 4 from 6 when fav:1 from 4 good to soft: 1 from 2 at trip: 0 from 1 in October but 5 from 6 Nov/Dec: on downside just 1/6 in tongue tie. Good luck fellow cliffers.

      This is his first run right handed, unbelievably imo, in two years. Connections seem to be seeking the key to him elsewhere, when right handed is staring them in the face.


  5. It’s the time of year where I poke around at my half-hearted attempts at tracking horses and try to remember what on earth it was that led me to put this or that horse in the list. The thing is, if it was someone else’s wisdom I was recording, that’s all to the good, but if it was a misguided attempt to trust my own judgement . . . oh dear.

    Here’s two from the tracker: caveat puntor.

    13:30 Musselburgh Eagle Ridge 9/2 nap
    15:05 Weatherby Kitty’s Light 11/1 EW nb


      1. Ha, I think that’s the first I’ve landed on this blog, and it was likely in the tracker on someone else’s tip anyway. But I’ll take it!


  6. My tracker suggests Edituer de gite in the ascot 2.45 as the nap. Copper coin at muss in the 2.03 is a realistic shout at a NB.


  7. Impossible to know what these household names will do first time out and a couple may never do it again anyhow.
    Apart from Christmas Day this must be the only Saturday with no Racing in the Irish Republic.
    Fusil Raffles ar 5/1 in the 15.05 Charlie Hall at Wetherby is my nap.
    My n.b. is Mister Malarkey who did me a favour when getting placed at 33/1 in February. I have taken 11/1 down to 6 places with Bet365.
    On his last run he was trounced by 81 and a half lengths but with a better ride it would only have been 81.


  8. My NAP Miranda 1.55W in combo bets with NB Vinndication 3.20A. Good luck all. And thanks Harry for the info on Joe Tizzard taking over.


  9. Nap Indefatigable (2.30), doubled up with Rattle Owl (3.40). Spent many a happy day at Wetherby on Charlie Hall day. I think it was at the Rowland Merwick day that I saw the cracking Delius, and being young, foolish, but in profit over the season, had my biggest portfolio of AP bets on one horse (almost 4 figures). But then, I didn’t expect Colin Brown to be such a dick.


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