Talking Horses Sunday October 31st 2021

It was great to see a few of the top names back over jumps. The horse I took from today is Galvin, who ran a superb race in his first tilt at Grade 1. He failed to get past a comparative speedster, but staying is his game, and he’s a few points too big at 16s for the Gold Cup given he is still improving.

Harry Skelton sometimes takes leave of his senses, especially in big races and did so again on Shan Blue. How could he track a runaway horse of Cyrname’s quality and then hurry past him so far out, then kick for home with everything else already off the bridle? Harry should just have sat still and given himself a chance to get home (by no means certain even at that). But to kick on when he surely knew a price had to be paid for tracking so close to such a pace … predictably, Shan Blue’s fall looked a very tired one to me, the horse changing legs on the approach then hanging right to try and find a spot to safely take off. Thankfully he seems all right, and, it might even prove a blessing in the long run as, had he completed, win or lose, he’d have been bottomed.

NB, have a look at the Ten To Follow thread if you haven’t already done so. We’re trying to get a wee syndicate together.

Now, to the Hitlist and strong performances from our tipsters on Saturday. Auld Chiel napped easy winner Indefatigable and was arguably unlucky not to make it a double when his next selection Rattle Owl got rid of young Oakley Brown when leading at the last. Nice work Auld Chiel.

EGS struck with his nap Fusil Raffles at 5/1 and also had a nice placed horse with his NB in Mr Malarkey, placed at 11/1. Well done, EGS.

Mickle’s nap Bay Bridge won at 6/5 – well played, sir.

Cornsay’s nap Eagle Ridge, advised at 9/2, won at 7/2, and his NB EW Kitty’s Light was placed at 11/1. Good stuff, Cornsay.

RobJ continues in good form with his nap American Mike winning at 4/7, and his NB the gallant Frodon winning at 3/1. Two crackers, Rob.

If I’ve missed anyone, please give me a shout via the Winners thread.

The blog’s nap Rattle Owl fell when in front at the last (normal 2 out) too far from home to say ih he’d have won. Sunday’s nap is Ahoy Senor in the 2.00 Carlisle at 5/2 BOG.

As ever, please leave your naps/tips by making a comment below. All welcome, especially newcomers; just enter a name when asked so we know who is who. No prizes, but it’s good fun here among some seasoned punters, most of whom spent years commenting at The Guardian on the original Talking Horses forum, which has now been heavily cut back.

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What This Blog Is For

As mentioned above this long-running Steeplechasing blog was adapted in a hurry when The Guardian announced they were cutting back on their (usually) daily Talking Horses section. Many punters had gathered there over the years to exchange ideas and fancies. Part of the adapting we had to do at the start of this blog was restricting this daily main article to tips/naps, while we found our feet regarding house rules, moderation and stuff like that.

We are now in a position to open this main daily article to all subjects. It can be very enjoyable when something is latched onto by our knowledgeable, quick-witted posters as they indulge in wordplay and jousting. We still want tips of course, from those who want to tip. It’s by no means an obligation.

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All the best


  1. Mickle has freaked me out with his nap as I always watched that Horse and did not expect to see him run in Carlisle at 14.00 today but I will be on.
    Mallow. WP Mullins is a fan and is currently 0/8 in the last 7 days but one of his three 3/1 shots should come home and I recommend Captain Kangaroo in the 13.50 at about that price.
    In the Grade 3 later on all 7 Horses have a 50/50 chance by my calculations so best leave well alone.
    I am turning my gaze to Kildare for my nap and n.b.
    The Birdcatcher Nursery at Naas is an important Race that was supported by Vincent and currently lacks a Wikipedia page.
    Memo to self. Do the Birdcatcher Nursery Wikipedia page. It will blow a lot of dust off my ancient scrolls. I think I remember things that never happened but so what?
    The owner of Birdcatcher was called William Disney.
    His great-great nephew was called Walt. Patience! I am making a start!
    At 13.00 today there is a curious Top Weight.
    The King of Bavaria won a maiden in May and was then furloughed by APOB until today a la mode Tenebrism and Glounthaune.
    I don’t know what that malarkey is about.
    King of Bavaria in a reverse forecast with his stable Mate Heart to Heart is my nap and n.b. In the Birdcatcher.


    1. That was stupid.
      King of Bavaria won the Birdcatcher at 6/1 but I only did a reverse forecast.
      I will probably never tip the winner of that Race again in my lifetime.


  2. I don’t follow Lucinda and Scu’s yard very closely, but I believe that running horses out of their depths is not a fault of theirs. And they’d be even less inclined to risk setting back a potential star, which is exactly what Ahoy Senor looked at Aintree in April. To run him in an established big time listed race (Many Clouds, Waiting Patiently, Lostintranslation) on his chasing debut (though he has pointing experience), is a hell of a public vote of confidence. I’ve backed him today and for the Brown Advisory (the old RSA), for which he is 25/1 V the 8/1 on offer for Bravemansgame, the horse he trounced at Aintree. Prices with Bet365.

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  3. Nap: Navajo Warrior 13/8 2.10 Naas
    NB: Uno Mas 10/11 3.55 Huntingdon.
    Since we’re talking AP, 8/1 for Shan Blue in the King George (obviously a price crash despite the crashing fall yesterday) doesn’t seem bad.


  4. Uno Mas (one more) is an appropriate name for a get out of Jail card and I hoped you redeemed your loss on the hapless Navajo Warrior.
    The best guide to the King George is who has won it before? I don’t back Johnny come latelies.
    On Boxing Day I will wake up and check if CDO and/or Frodon have stood their ground and take proportionate action.
    Ì know Shan Blue sounds like Edredon Bleu but beware of these cognitive biases.


    1. Mannix 6.28 in gulf was behind luxenburg..
      I never bet ante post
      Or gaa….i see heavy hitters in town bet gaa but its just following the money.
      The guy lost 4k on friday i still wonder what he works at as he all time gambling jeeeez


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