Horsetalk Tuesday November 29th 2021

Good performances today from our Napsters. David and Rakib had Operation Overlord at 10/3 – well done.

Rob J chose Buzz de Tourcoing at 13/8 and El Gran Senor picked Famous Bridge at 5/2. That one did well to get up, EGS: the 2nd ran a hell of a race from the front and is in my notebook. Anyway, good work, fellas.

Betfair Naps Table

Starting November 1st 2021, Betfair have kindly agreed to provide two tickets each month to the winner of the naps table for one of their sponsored racedays.

Please post your nap each day using the comments section below this thread. All welcome. You need not post every day and can join in at any point in the month, as one big priced winner could win you the prize, which is settled on the tipster showing the biggest profit at the end the month. But, bear in mind that on days your name does not appear on the Daily Naps Results winners list, you’ll be assumed to have picked a loser.

For example, if at the end of the month your name is on the list once with a 25/1 winner, you will have your £250 profit from that nap deducted from assumed losing stakes for each other day. Assuming a 30-day month, your total stakes would be viewed as £300, returns as £260, for a loss of £40. I hope this makes sense. If you can think of a better way or a way to express this more clearly, please leave a comment below.

You need post only the horse’s name, but feel free to elaborate on your reasons for picking it.

If your selection secures a return – EW naps are allowed – please post the result in the Winners Thread stating it was your nap and mentioning the SP. Non runners will be settled as a break even day.

Profit will be calculated to a £10 stake on each selection. EW selections will be staked at £5EW.

All naps will be settled at SP, so please do not include an early price. This will help maintain clarity and reduce the chances of disputes. We will use standard place rules a la Tattersalls to settle EW naps. Otherwise I need to start checking place offers, non runners affecting it, etc. Doubtless some will suffer because of this, but I think it will even out in the end.

This Site

This site is open to all. It’s free and there’s no need to enrol formally, but if commenting, please choose a username when making your comment.

We discuss horse racing mostly, but have a Lounge if you want to bring up any other subject.

You are welcome to enter our Daily Naps Challenge – a fun competition for which Betfair kindly donates two Raceday tickets every month for the winner.

The rules for the site are basic: be kind to everyone, and please don’t swear. We are not prudes, but we do not have a moderator other than me – Joe McNally, and I don’t want to spend a lot of time monitoring the site. If you see something you want to report, you can do so confidentially using the Contact page.

Finally, there are some hardened and skilled tipsters here and each has their good and bad runs. When one starts a good run, it can seem to the less experienced that all prayers have been answered, and a holy grail of winners has been found. But please never make that assumption. It’s not the way things work in betting, for anyone. Sharks flogging baited tips would have you believe that this holy grail does exist. Well, there is a collective punting experience on this site numbering, I’d say, close to 500 years. Not a single tipster here will tell you that reliable profits can be made from betting racehorses.

So, this is not a mild and dutiful problem betting disclaimer. I’ve been in the business since 1971 and have seen any amount of God’s misery caused by betting beyond means. Punting is a brilliant pastime, but a horrible compulsion, a fantastic servant, but a dreadful master. Never bet more than you can afford to lose with a smile … and there’s plenty of big smiles in small stakes.

Good luck



  1. So, it has come to this. The 13.10 at Lingfield Polytrack. Tumbleweed. I am napping at Dundalk tomorrow where even their Tumbleweed might rustle less.
    I had searched the Deauville Racecard in the desperate hope that the French Authorities might have got their ever changing 2yo Flat season so mad there might be a Group 3 for 2yos over 16F but it’s not to be.
    Unilateralism is my nap in the 13.10 at Lingfield.


    1. I believe there is a period of grace where you can withdraw your offer to buy and I am doing so within 10 mins. of that last nap recommendation.
      I have noticed in the earlier 12.10 a Horse called If You Can Dream who has the impressive form figures of 5555 in his 4 starts.
      More impressively he has drifted out to double his opening odds to his SP in each Race.
      Not many seem to dream about this Horse.
      As he will drift today to about 10/1 I would look for a company that gives place odds down to 4th but I can only see 3rd place.
      I will just have do him as my e.w. nap.


    2. Surface snob lol. Frankly on a day like this I’m missing the old Fibresand…those class 6 jobbies with their ultra slow-mo finishes…


  2. Lucinda had too many running today and I always seem to nap the wrong one when she has a handful out..Tomorrow the task is easier..only 1 runner and the nap is Ballyare Newc 15:45


  3. Pretty poor days racing (especially for someone one not really that interested in synthetic surfaces!) So with options narrowed, I will nap une de la seniere (southwell 12:55).


  4. The highlight of the day could be some online shopping – if I cba
    Nap Newc 1545 Lordsbridge Boy
    The real surprise is that we went to bed snowbound but by the morning it is gone – except for those who like to pile it up!


  5. Supreme Gift (Southwell 1.55) could be all right in a race with virtually no racecourse form. He won a point to point in determined style at Tattersalls Farm in May on good ground – very hard to assess that form as only one horse has run in any sphere since then, unplaced but promising enough in a Kelso bumper. The race was perhaps most notable as it marked the last PTP ride by Jamie Codd before he retired from the game. He obviously wanted to quit at the top! A curiosity of the betting market this morning has been the money for David Thompson’s Blame The Farrier (25/1 to 8/1). I say curious because I can’t remember a jumps horse sired by that classy 6f specialist Slade Power before. But there have been a few winners in the family. He’ll probably come wit a devastating late surge like his dad! I think I’d rather be on the Henry Daly horse if it’s all the same with you.


    1. Pity. Alice Stevens was outridden in the finish by the stronger rider, AJ O’Neill. Alice has ridden the odd winner recently but this is one that got away. Slade Power’s son barely got 10f never mind the two miles.

      Nice bit of ground at Southwell today.


    1. Congrats beat my 6-1 NAP by neck – mind you Alchemystique (125-1) or Irish Sovereign (50s) would have been a good way to end the month!


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