Horsetalk Wednesday December 22nd 2021

Naps Table Update

DN was the sole holder of the fort once more on Tuesday napping Full of Light at 5/2: well done, DN.

Betfair Naps Table

Starting November 1st 2021, Betfair have kindly agreed to provide two tickets each month to the winner of the naps table for one of their sponsored racedays.

Please post your nap each day using the comments section below this thread. All welcome. You need not post every day and can join in at any point in the month, as one big priced winner could win you the prize, which is settled on the tipster showing the biggest profit at the end the month. But, bear in mind that on days your name does not appear on the Daily Naps Results winners list, you’ll be assumed to have picked a loser.

For example, if at the end of the month your name is on the list once with a 25/1 winner, you will have your £250 profit from that nap deducted from assumed losing stakes for each other day. Assuming a 30-day month, your total stakes would be viewed as £300, returns as £260, for a loss of £40. I hope this makes sense. If you can think of a better way or a way to express this more clearly, please leave a comment below.

You need post only the horse’s name, but feel free to elaborate on your reasons for picking it.

If your selection secures a return – EW naps are allowed – please post the result in the Winners Thread stating it was your nap and mentioning the SP. Non runners will be settled as a break even day.

Profit will be calculated to a £10 stake on each selection. EW selections will be staked at £5EW.

All naps will be settled at SP, so please do not include an early price. This will help maintain clarity and reduce the chances of disputes. We will use standard place rules a la Tattersalls to settle EW naps. Otherwise I need to start checking place offers, non runners affecting it, etc. Doubtless some will suffer because of this, but I think it will even out in the end.

This Site

This site is open to all. It’s free and there’s no need to enrol formally, but if commenting, please choose a username when making your comment.

We discuss horse racing mostly, but have a Lounge if you want to bring up any other subject.

You are welcome to enter our Daily Naps Challenge – a fun competition for which Betfair kindly donates two Raceday tickets every month for the winner.

The rules for the site are basic: be kind to everyone, and please don’t swear. We are not prudes, but we do not have a moderator other than me – Joe McNally, and I don’t want to spend a lot of time monitoring the site. If you see something you want to report, you can do so confidentially using the Contact page. Play the man and not the ball, by which I mean you can castigate heavily someone’s point of view, but do not castigate the poster personally.

Finally, there are some hardened and skilled tipsters here and each has their good and bad runs. When one starts a good run, it can seem to the less experienced that all prayers have been answered, and a holy grail of winners has been found. But please never make that assumption. It’s not the way things work in betting, for anyone. Sharks flogging baited tips would have you believe that this holy grail does exist. Well, there is a collective punting experience on this site numbering, I’d say, close to 500 years. Not a single tipster here will tell you that reliable profits can be made from betting racehorses.

So, this is not a mild and dutiful problem betting disclaimer. I’ve been in the business since 1971 and have seen any amount of God’s misery caused by betting beyond means. Punting is a brilliant pastime, but a horrible compulsion, a fantastic servant, but a dreadful master. Never bet more than you can afford to lose with a smile … and there’s plenty of big smiles in small stakes.

Good luck



  1. Two names at Ludlow catch my eye for a double.
    Fidelio Vallis with Top Weight in the 13.45 coupled with Didero Vallis also with Top Weight in the next Race at 14.15.
    Different silks to boot.
    I have no idea what Vallis means. I think it is Latin which is a relief from the Ancient Greek Crap where Pi is next word we will have to listen to incessantly on our Radios.
    I am going for Fidelio Vallus in the 13.45 at Ludlow as my nap.


  2. Ludlow 1.15.
    Clutching at straws, but Jaunty Freyja has already previously finished in front of the fav. At 40/1. i’ll make it my ew nap.


  3. I normally stay away from Wolverhampton, but too shy shy (hush hush) caught my eye, if only to make a terrible pun. In an attempt to drag myself up the naps table I will nap Buy me back (14:30, Wolverhampton). Well done DN, good luck all


  4. Green book should win but its very short so its Dublin Four in the 2.15 at Ludlow for the Nap with the hope that The Newest one (which is also on my tracker) doesn’t win it…


    1. Green book skoots home at 1 to 3 – it was much bigger than that earlier maybe 4 to 6?. Not a price for a gambler of my humble stakes but certainly a bit of a penalty kick for anyone who bets the shorties…


  5. Keeping my powder dry today and looking ahead – like most I hope/guess- to Boxing Day and beyond now. Just the 11 meetings in the UK&I on the 26th packed into about 3 and half hours so basically Christmas a day late for the bookies – so no time to watch half the races let alone analyse them properly …anyone want to share their strategy for handling the insanity? Some good news is that the 3 Irish meetings look like being available on Freesports (channel 422 on Sky) so combining that with ITV’s Kempton coverage seems a good way to whittle it down to something digestible. Mixed feelings on the lack of further restrictions pre-Xmas – obviously this is good news for any of us planning to attend a racecourse (not a likely scene of transmission, admittedly, especially if numbers were restricted) in England but it’s not ‘following the science’* whatever that is supposed to mean. We should be honest about the fact that there will be people who die in the next month who wouldn’t have if England was adopting the same measures as the rest of the UK. Anyway, we’ve all seen this 🤡 show before.
    * I’d prefer ‘acting according to the maths’ and ‘which bit of exponential increase does the government never seem to grasp’ or to be more folky ‘a stitch in time..’


  6. Question For Joe – Are we napping the next few days while UK and Irish racing are having a wee break? I don’t mind either way – just wondering.


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