Horsetalk Thursday December 30th 2021

Naps Table Update

Rakib was on the board early on Wednesday with Regina Dracones at 3/1. David followed up on Tuesday’s winner with another in Stage Star (very impressive) at 5/4. And good to see Luke H burst back onto the scene with a spectacular 12/1 winning nap in Grumpy Charley. Very fine work, fellas, thanks.

I thought P Mullins did superbly well not to panic on Sharjah in the closing stages; the favourite simply did not want to go past despite various opportunities. And How Run Wild Fred not only stood up after steamrollering the 10th, it hardly seemed to lose him any ground. I doubt it cost him the race, but his recovery says much for his constitution and attitude.

Betfair Naps Table

Starting November 1st 2021, Betfair have kindly agreed to provide two tickets each month to the winner of the naps table for one of their sponsored racedays.

Please post your nap each day using the comments section below this thread. All welcome. You need not post every day and can join in at any point in the month, as one big priced winner could win you the prize, which is settled on the tipster showing the biggest profit at the end the month. But, bear in mind that on days your name does not appear on the Daily Naps Results winners list, you’ll be assumed to have picked a loser.

For example, if at the end of the month your name is on the list once with a 25/1 winner, you will have your £250 profit from that nap deducted from assumed losing stakes for each other day. Assuming a 30-day month, your total stakes would be viewed as £300, returns as £260, for a loss of £40. I hope this makes sense. If you can think of a better way or a way to express this more clearly, please leave a comment below.

You need post only the horse’s name, but feel free to elaborate on your reasons for picking it.

If your selection secures a return – EW naps are allowed – please post the result in the Winners Thread stating it was your nap and mentioning the SP. Non runners will be settled as a break even day.

Profit will be calculated to a £10 stake on each selection. EW selections will be staked at £5EW.

All naps will be settled at SP, so please do not include an early price. This will help maintain clarity and reduce the chances of disputes. We will use standard place rules a la Tattersalls to settle EW naps. Otherwise I need to start checking place offers, non runners affecting it, etc. Doubtless some will suffer because of this, but I think it will even out in the end.

This Site

This site is open to all. It’s free and there’s no need to enrol formally, but if commenting, please choose a username when making your comment.

We discuss horse racing mostly, but have a Lounge if you want to bring up any other subject.

You are welcome to enter our Daily Naps Challenge – a fun competition for which Betfair kindly donates two Raceday tickets every month for the winner.

The rules for the site are basic: be kind to everyone, and please don’t swear. We are not prudes, but we do not have a moderator other than me – Joe McNally, and I don’t want to spend a lot of time monitoring the site. If you see something you want to report, you can do so confidentially using the Contact page. Play the man and not the ball, by which I mean you can castigate heavily someone’s point of view, but do not castigate the poster personally.

Finally, there are some hardened and skilled tipsters here and each has their good and bad runs. When one starts a good run, it can seem to the less experienced that all prayers have been answered, and a holy grail of winners has been found. But please never make that assumption. It’s not the way things work in betting, for anyone. Sharks flogging baited tips would have you believe that this holy grail does exist. Well, there is a collective punting experience on this site numbering, I’d say, close to 500 years. Not a single tipster here will tell you that reliable profits can be made from betting racehorses.

So, this is not a mild and dutiful problem betting disclaimer. I’ve been in the business since 1971 and have seen any amount of God’s misery caused by betting beyond means. Punting is a brilliant pastime, but a horrible compulsion, a fantastic servant, but a dreadful master. Never bet more than you can afford to lose with a smile … and there’s plenty of big smiles in small stakes.

Good luck



  1. Tom Symonds is in decent form and I’ll take his Bobo Mac as the nap in the 2.05. I’m always loath to desert an old friend and I shall have a pound on him anyway, but Beware The Bear’s most recent Chaseform comment made me chuckle – “down in class, once again fell in a hole and has lost the plot.”


  2. All that top class jumps action …phew. It’ll take a week it digest it all and figure where we are regarding Cheltenham AP bets. Re the RWF race, I thought it was a bit of an understated masterclass by Jack Kennedy on Fury Road, (I was personally on Vanillier, whose name I don’t think the excellent Jerry Hannon has quite got the hang of, incidentally) letting the two front runners muck things up between themselves and then easing to the front when the time was right. Hopefully he stays injury-free the rest of the season. Anyway, in the meantime going to switch gears entirely with Ballyare, Lucinda Russell’s crack sprinter in the 5.30 Wolves.


      1. Did Mint Condition win?
        I threw my aggressively ragged Betslip in the Bin long before the finish.
        I hate it when people just throw Betslips on the ground for the Cleaners to sort out.


  3. Last Sunday at Santa Anita FLIGHTLINE maintained his unbeaten sequence in spectacular fashion winning hard held . The last horse to run to the time he stopped the clock in was FRANKEL.
    It’s worth watching the replay.


    1. “Flightline, jogging home under Flavian Prat, wins by a distance!” Blimey, he never get out of second gear and FP took a while to pull him up. That more than made up for him on a night when he got beat on plenty of shorties.


      1. Everything that could go wrong did that night for Flav other than this lad . Races were switched surfaces and horses went wrong on him. Cost people a packet out there . I had a lucky escape as WHill refused to take my combo bet.


        1. Yep, tailormade for that race. They are very excited about him round Dinas Pembs way. Bec is finally back on an even keel after Gearoid Costelloe went his own way.

          Hills were happy to take mine . . .


    1. A good day indeed for PN – the 3 shorties have all come in making a nice trixie. A bit lucky in first of them as looked unlikely to win when Bryony fell in front but hey-ho. These things come and go for you.

      There’s an acca too awaiting the least likely of the 4 he had out today in the last – Time to Tinker. Be nice if that landed too…


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.