Horsetalk Friday December 31st 2021

Naps Table Update

David landed his nap for the 3rd day in a row – the only winner among Thursday’s naps – well done, David with RainyDay Women at 1/1.

Betfair Naps Table

Starting November 1st 2021, Betfair have kindly agreed to provide two tickets each month to the winner of the naps table for one of their sponsored racedays.

Please post your nap each day using the comments section below this thread. All welcome. You need not post every day and can join in at any point in the month, as one big priced winner could win you the prize, which is settled on the tipster showing the biggest profit at the end the month. But, bear in mind that on days your name does not appear on the Daily Naps Results winners list, you’ll be assumed to have picked a loser.

For example, if at the end of the month your name is on the list once with a 25/1 winner, you will have your £250 profit from that nap deducted from assumed losing stakes for each other day. Assuming a 30-day month, your total stakes would be viewed as £300, returns as £260, for a loss of £40. I hope this makes sense. If you can think of a better way or a way to express this more clearly, please leave a comment below.

You need post only the horse’s name, but feel free to elaborate on your reasons for picking it.

If your selection secures a return – EW naps are allowed – please post the result in the Winners Thread stating it was your nap and mentioning the SP. Non runners will be settled as a break even day.

Profit will be calculated to a £10 stake on each selection. EW selections will be staked at £5EW.

All naps will be settled at SP, so please do not include an early price. This will help maintain clarity and reduce the chances of disputes. We will use standard place rules a la Tattersalls to settle EW naps. Otherwise I need to start checking place offers, non runners affecting it, etc. Doubtless some will suffer because of this, but I think it will even out in the end.

This Site

This site is open to all. It’s free and there’s no need to enrol formally, but if commenting, please choose a username when making your comment.

We discuss horse racing mostly, but have a Lounge if you want to bring up any other subject.

You are welcome to enter our Daily Naps Challenge – a fun competition for which Betfair kindly donates two Raceday tickets every month for the winner.

The rules for the site are basic: be kind to everyone, and please don’t swear. We are not prudes, but we do not have a moderator other than me – Joe McNally, and I don’t want to spend a lot of time monitoring the site. If you see something you want to report, you can do so confidentially using the Contact page. Play the man and not the ball, by which I mean you can castigate heavily someone’s point of view, but do not castigate the poster personally.

Finally, there are some hardened and skilled tipsters here and each has their good and bad runs. When one starts a good run, it can seem to the less experienced that all prayers have been answered, and a holy grail of winners has been found. But please never make that assumption. It’s not the way things work in betting, for anyone. Sharks flogging baited tips would have you believe that this holy grail does exist. Well, there is a collective punting experience on this site numbering, I’d say, close to 500 years. Not a single tipster here will tell you that reliable profits can be made from betting racehorses.

So, this is not a mild and dutiful problem betting disclaimer. I’ve been in the business since 1971 and have seen any amount of God’s misery caused by betting beyond means. Punting is a brilliant pastime, but a horrible compulsion, a fantastic servant, but a dreadful master. Never bet more than you can afford to lose with a smile … and there’s plenty of big smiles in small stakes.

Good luck



  1. Egality Mans in the 11.45 at Punchestown where dusk will soon be setting is my nap.
    What catches my eye is Hms (sic) Seahorse in the 12.45 when the Floodlights should be full on.
    I backed the poor creature to no avail in all his 4 previous starts at Ballydoyle .
    This is the second time in the last 72 hours an ex-Ballydoyle Horse has lined up for the Paul Nolan Stable and I I don’t what that is about.


    1. Pied Piper for the Rat-nar Lodbrok combination of Kennedy/Elliott looks an even more interesting recruit from the flat in that 12.45 race in colours that seem to be doing well. Although the only runner I remember backing before is a different ex-Gosden-er Sevenal and that’s a juicier 16/1, the testing ground probably not ideal for that one.


      1. Oops and Chacha Dancer who i napped twice on the flat- failed to place off much lower marks! Lofty company for her but stranger things have happened and she did finish third in hurdling debut.


  2. Ryanair Logbook (e/w) looks a tempting alternative to the McManus runners in the 12.15 Punch. Oops that’s an unfortunate autocorrect job – it’s obviously Ragnar Lodbrok, and would continue Gordon E’s super low-key (Loki?) return to training this season. Speaking of whom looking forward to his Gin-to in the Grade 1 at Naas on Sunday…Gords should be feeling positively drunk on success after that p***es up.


  3. Lusitanien in the 12:55 Uttoxeter. Although there seems to have been a plunge on Rootless Tree who has come in from 10/1 to 9/4 fav.

    And well done David, fine bit of tipping form.


    1. Oh and wishing everyone a happy new year. Stay safe, look after yourselves / your loved ones and may your glasses be full and your bookie’s satchel empty.


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